
馬姓(欽建堂),南京回族,父系Y:R1b1a1a2a2c(R-Z2106-CTS8966),母系mt:M11a,曾祖母mt:H2b
馬姓,南京回族
堂號(hào):欽建堂
輩分字:...國(guó),恩,家,慶...
曾祖父:馬嵩山
家族已做Y高通,Y-DNA:R1b1a1a2a2c(R-Z2106-CTS8966)
YFull:https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-CTS8966?YFull ID:YF12717
基因助手:https://geneu.xyz
印歐網(wǎng)站:https://indo-european.info/ie/Paleo-Balkan
Eupedia:https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/30881-Modern-distribution-of-R1b-Z2103?
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R1b1a1a2a2-Z2103 lineages appear in modern populations as:
曾祖母的母系 H2b
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2b/??
https://geneu.xyz
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml?
H2b: found in the Yamna, Srubnaya and Unetice cultures. Found among the Angles and Lombards. Found in Europe, Turkey, Pakistan and India.
堂號(hào):欽建堂
輩分字:...國(guó),恩,家,慶...
曾祖父:馬嵩山
家族已做Y高通,Y-DNA:R1b1a1a2a2c(R-Z2106-CTS8966)
YFull:https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-CTS8966?YFull ID:YF12717
基因助手:https://geneu.xyz
印歐網(wǎng)站:https://indo-european.info/ie/Paleo-Balkan
Eupedia:https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/30881-Modern-distribution-of-R1b-Z2103?
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R1b1a1a2a2-Z2103 lineages appear in modern populations as:
- A Balkan group – mainly of R1b1a1a2a2c-Z2106 lineages,found in Turkey, Bulgaria and Italy, like the sample found in Stalingrad Quarry dated ca. 2670 –, with a central group dominated by R1b1a1a2a2c1a-Z2110 found in Greece and Central Europe.
- An Armenian group – of R1b1a1a2a2a-L584 lineages – found mainly in the Armenian highlands.
- A northern group – of R1b1a1a2a2b-L277.1 lineage, possibly related to the Vu?edol sample ca. 2775 BC and the Bell Beaker sample from Szigetszentmikklós ca. 2330 BC.
- R-Z2110(CTS7822,including CTS9219): found in Russia (including Chuvashia), Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, the Balkans, Armenia, Italy, Spain, Britain and Ireland.
- R-Z2109 : found in Germany and Scotland.
曾祖母的母系 H2b
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2b/??
https://geneu.xyz
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml?
H2b: found in the Yamna, Srubnaya and Unetice cultures. Found among the Angles and Lombards. Found in Europe, Turkey, Pakistan and India.
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如果族教綁定,回族人就不能宗教信仰自由了:只能信,不能不信;只能信這個(gè),不能信別的。
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一是不符合憲法,二是不符合人權(quán)自由。
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另外,時(shí)間線祖源,上面有好多民族,還有德系猶太人?這是怎么理解的呢?是否是指猶太男性的基因?
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然后是這個(gè) Y 染色體,也就是你最初祖先,卻并不是一個(gè)典型的東亞人。
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目前研究中:
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“蒙古中部的元代王族墓,3個(gè)貴族,2個(gè) R1b,一個(gè) R1a,其中 R1a 還有STR數(shù)據(jù),可以與現(xiàn)有蒙古人都基本無(wú)關(guān)(該王族在今天的蒙古人中幾乎沒(méi)有后裔),應(yīng)該不是成吉思汗所在的黃金家族。數(shù)據(jù)源《Molecular Genealogy of a Mongol Queen’s Family and Her Possible Kinship with Genghis Khan》”
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“其中可以看出的是,元代蒙古貴族中,尼倫蒙古之外,很大一部分其實(shí)不是常見(jiàn)的C,而是偏西方的R和Q。”
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這樣看,最初的祖先只能再往西一些,即來(lái)自中亞。
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R1b 在元代王族中能發(fā)現(xiàn),王族起碼是有后人的,然而后裔不屬于現(xiàn)今蒙古人,在你這個(gè)單個(gè)例子上屬于回民。
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我個(gè)人的猜測(cè)是:這支或這幾支的王族改宗了,從而脫離了蒙古(當(dāng)然,蒙古當(dāng)初也是非常繁多的很多群體融合而成的共同體,族裔色彩并不濃厚)。你可以附上你的姓氏與祖籍,我們?cè)偬接懱接憽?
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另外,我父母都是回族。發(fā)一張我的照片給您參考。
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既然祖源里75%以上都是南北方漢族,那為什么Y單倍體是R1b1呢?
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我一個(gè)本地的同學(xué),他的Y單倍群是O-A9457
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1 位于蒙古西邊的突厥部落,被蒙古化;突厥中阿史那是 R1a 的可能性最大,但不排除 R1b。所以一些蒙古化突厥(語(yǔ))部落可能融入了蒙古諸部,其首領(lǐng)成為了元朝王族(注意是僅首領(lǐng))。
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2 位于中亞的其他印歐人種,被成吉思汗帶到中國(guó)(即色目人),在漢地安置。
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回民馬姓一般來(lái)源于經(jīng)名,穆或者其他 M 開(kāi)頭的音節(jié)大都本土化為漢姓馬。
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https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2106/
https://indo-european.info/ie/Paleo-Balkan
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A Balkan group – mainly of R1b1a1a2a2c-Z2106 lineages, like the sample found in Stalingrad Quarry dated ca. 2670 –, with a central group dominated by R1b1a1a2a2c1a-Z2110 found in Greece and Central Europe.
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https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2b/??
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml
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H2b: found in the Yamna, Srubnaya and Unetice cultures. Found among the Angles and Lombards. Found in Europe, Tukrey, Pakistan and India.
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